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[TimeStriker]

I am truly very bored, so I've decided to start posting Time paradoxes up here! And I am open to opinion! Also, I'm about 99% sure no one else has made a topic about this

[Poring]

When you go back in time and kill your parents you don't stop existing. You split up reality into one where your parents were killed and all that comes after that and one in which your parents are still alive and so are you.

[TimeStriker]

If you consciously went to the past to make a change, by the time the change loops back on the timeline to your relative present, you will have had no reason to go back in time; hence you can't go back in time and change something consciously


note: This theory is only valid if multiple timelines cannot be created or accessed, you can move through our timeline as a separate entity to yourself in the past ie. you cannot relive events from your past from your perspective, your only motive to go back in time was to make a change

[OrangePegasus]

Well I believe if you change a single thing in the past the future would change :T Not drastically but kinda noticeable

[vlamer12]

Well I believe if you change a single thing in the past the future would change :T Not drastically but kinda noticeable

This is really influenced by chance. For example: You go back in time and do something simple as steal a pen from a house. Then the owner of the pen might need it and try to find it. This action already gives a million possible new outcomes. He can get a fight with his brother wich might make it so (in combination) with some other incidents there is a lost of trust wich again leads to more possible outcomes. He might try to find it and look under his desk, when he goes up he hits his head. His mother checks in on him for a minute and then goes do grosery. But since she looked after him, she didn't get overun by a car on the streets that slipped. So yea, you never know. This is also very well known as: The butterfly effect. "Step on a butterfly now, and a year later a 1000 people die"

Grzzz

vlamer12

[TimeStriker]

This is really influenced by chance. For example: You go back in time and do something simple as steal a pen from a house. Then the owner of the pen might need it and try to find it. This action already gives a million possible new outcomes. He can get a fight with his brother wich might make it so (in combination) with some other incidents there is a lost of trust wich again leads to more possible outcomes. He might try to find it and look under his desk, when he goes up he hits his head. His mother checks in on him for a minute and then goes do grosery. But since she looked after him, she didn't get overun by a car on the streets that slipped. So yea, you never know. This is also very well known as: The butterfly effect. "Step on a butterfly now, and a year later a 1000 people die"

Grzzz

vlamer12

Well I believe if you change a single thing in the past the future would change :T Not drastically but kinda noticeable

Remember this?

If you consciously went to the past to make a change, by the time the change loops back on the timeline to your relative present, you will have had no reason to go back in time; hence you can't go back in time and change something consciously


note: This theory is only valid if multiple timelines cannot be created or accessed, you can move through our timeline as a separate entity to yourself in the past ie. you cannot relive events from your past from your perspective, your only motive to go back in time was to make a change

Simply put; you'd have go back in time with no real motive, so when any changes loop back, you will still have a reason to back in time in the first place eg, I go back to see someone, then when I'm there I think to steal a pen.

Edited by TimeStriker, 05 July 2012 - 02:19 PM.

[BlueTiger6001]

Uhhhh.... You go back in time and kill an ape. The ape turned out to be the ape that created the first human (no religious debate, please ) and then you no longer exist... but if you no longer exist, you couldn't have killed the ape, therefore the human race would have continued... but now you do exist again and you kill the first ape ect...

What is the meaning of this thread, again?

[ProsaurusRex]

This is really influenced by chance. For example: You go back in time and do something simple as steal a pen from a house. Then the owner of the pen might need it and try to find it. This action already gives a million possible new outcomes. He can get a fight with his brother wich might make it so (in combination) with some other incidents there is a lost of trust wich again leads to more possible outcomes. He might try to find it and look under his desk, when he goes up he hits his head. His mother checks in on him for a minute and then goes do grosery. But since she looked after him, she didn't get overun by a car on the streets that slipped. So yea, you never know. This is also very well known as: The butterfly effect. "Step on a butterfly now, and a year later a 1000 people die"

Grzzz

vlamer12

That. Is. Brilliant. Someone please write a book about this, how the insignificant act of borrowing a pen and forgetting to put it back while in the past changed the world. It would be a good read, I'm sure.

[TimeStriker]

You all forget the loopback, after you make a change in the past, you have to remember that when you change something you may never have a reason to go back in time in the first place, hence the change you made would never take place

[Aristaeus]

That. Is. Brilliant. Someone please write a book about this, how the insignificant act of borrowing a pen and forgetting to put it back while in the past changed the world. It would be a good read, I'm sure.

As far as I know, most non fiction books about time travel are about the science of it, and not how we need to be careful. I'm sure that fiction has looked at this. Phillip K. Dick was into that kind of thing, I'll see if he wrote a book about paradoxes and time travel.

[TimeStriker]

As far as I know, most non fiction books about time travel are about the science of it, and not how we need to be careful. I'm sure that fiction has looked at this. Phillip K. Dick was into that kind of thing, I'll see if he wrote a book about paradoxes and time travel.

That would be excellent, I really feel like arguing with someone about this.

[~Nightmare~]

Time travel doesn't exist, I win.

[ProsaurusRex]

It's a paradox. Her future self told her where to find time travel spells, and that's the only way she found out. It's impossible!

[TimeStriker]

Time travel doesn't exist, I win.

And with a few theory's could prove that.

[~Nightmare~]

And with a few theory's could prove that.

If time travel existed, don't you think someone would have told us by now by going into the past and telling us?

[TimeStriker]

It's a paradox. Her future self told her where to find time travel spells, and that's the only way she found out. It's impossible!

That actually coincides with another theory, It creates a paradox when you either see or go forward in time, and find, for example, plans for a machine you end up creating, so that means that the plans just appeared out of a tange you created in the timeline.

If time travel existed, don't you think someone would have told us by now by going into the past and telling us?

That would create a tange, they wouldn't bother risking that kind of paradox, besides the only way to back into the past and change something is by accident.

Edited by TimeStriker, 06 July 2012 - 12:18 AM.

[~Nightmare~]

That actually coincides with another theory, It creates a paradox when you either see or go forward in time, and find, for example, plans for a machine you end up creating, so that means that the plans just appeared out of a tange you created in the timeline.


That would create a tange, they wouldn't bother risking that kind of paradox, besides the only way to back into the past and change something is by accident.

I'm sure at least one guy would honestly, because if I could go back in time, that's exactly what I would do.

[TimeStriker]

I'm sure at least one guy would honestly, because if I could go back in time, that's exactly what I would do.

Again, you can't go back in time and change things easily, as a conscious decision would end up giving you no reason to go back in time as that has already happened.

[Gooru]

^^ but for you, going back in time would still be perceived as going forwards in time. its like upon going back in time, the world you once knew is now dead to you, the future you inhabit will be way different than the one you left to go back in time.

Instead of time travel I would want to dissolve time so that I could communicate with wizards from beyond three dimensions

[Aristaeus]

It's a paradox. Her future self told her where to find time travel spells, and that's the only way she found out. It's impossible!

It's not impossible. The thing with time is that it's non linear, meaning that things don't happen in any order. It's more a big wibbly-wobbly ball of timey-wimey stuff (with apologies to David Tennant). What would be impossible is if she saw herself from the future and then didn't travel back in time.

[TimeStriker]

It's not impossible. The thing with time is that it's non linear, meaning that things don't happen in any order. It's more a big wibbly-wobbly ball of timey-wimey stuff (with apologies to David Tennant). What would be impossible is if she saw herself from the future and then didn't travel back in time.

It creates a tange in time, a tange that could be easily erased, if she never went back in time to tell herself. The tange gets erased and you screw over the entire timeline.

Edited by TimeStriker, 08 July 2012 - 07:56 AM.

[ThisisRuin]

I would assume that going back in time and killing your parents (before you were born) would not, in-turn, kill you. If you could time travel, wouldn't that make you immune to time's influences?
I'm not going to argue about it. This is what I believe.

[TimeStriker]

I think I have gone too far with these paradoxi (yes I say paradoxi now), I don't think anyone anywhere will EVER be ready for timetravel, as a black hole breaks the laws of physics, a timemachine can arguably exist even though it breaks virtually ALL the laws of TIME.

I would assume that going back in time and killing your parents (before you were born) would not, in-turn, kill you. If you could time travel, wouldn't that make you immune to time's influences?
I'm not going to argue about it. This is what I believe.

I believe time god could be the term used there.

[ShinxSphere]

Watch both....Discuss.

[BlueTiger6001]

I believe time god could be the term used there.

In Doctor Who, it's called a Time Lord

[TimeStriker]

In Doctor Who, it's called a Time Lord

But they are all dead...except the Doctor

[ShinxSphere]

But they are all dead...except the Doctor

Ehhhhh not true.

[TimeStriker]

Ehhhhh not true.

Then I really need to catch up on that.

[BlueTiger6001]

Then I really need to catch up on that.

I'm pretty sure that his half daughter / wife (I'm really confused about it ) is half time lord. (Time lady)

Can't remember much about it. Oh, and that other evil one, the one they put in a cage and now he's like 99999999 years old xD.

[TimeStriker]

I'm pretty sure that his half daughter / wife (I'm really confused about it ) is half time lord. (Time lady)

Can't remember much about it. Oh, and that other evil one, the one they put in a cage and now he's like 99999999 years old xD.

I saw that, it is as confusing as you say...